AVWW Beta 0.923 "Your Mission Description, If You Choose To Accept It" Released!

[x4000]

...we'd probably be poorer and have a lot less fans.

[Penumbra]

Yet, somehow, EA is still around.

[x4000]

Oh, for sure.  But that's because they already controlled so much of the market and it doesn't matter if people hate them.  Plus they have an incredible volume of customers that we never will -- heck, that Notch never will.  When the big guys jerk you around, you've got not many other options.  When the little guys do it, boy do you have a lot of other options!

[keith.lamothe]

Man, if you guys had charged 99 cents for every ship in AI war.....

Most of you guys wouldn't like us

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New one: http://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,10193.0.html

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Oh, for sure.  But that's because they already controlled so much of the market and it doesn't matter if people hate them.  Plus they have an incredible volume of customers that we never will -- heck, that Notch never will.  When the big guys jerk you around, you've got not many other options.  When the little guys do it, boy do you have a lot of other options!

Pff, I have plenty of options when EA jerks me around.  I leaveeeeeee them. 

King

[x4000]

Oh, for sure.  But that's because they already controlled so much of the market and it doesn't matter if people hate them.  Plus they have an incredible volume of customers that we never will -- heck, that Notch never will.  When the big guys jerk you around, you've got not many other options.  When the little guys do it, boy do you have a lot of other options!

Pff, I have plenty of options when EA jerks me around.  I leaveeeeeee them. 

King

But not everybody thinks that way, or can resist the siren call of whatever shiny they're offering.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Oh, for sure.  But that's because they already controlled so much of the market and it doesn't matter if people hate them.  Plus they have an incredible volume of customers that we never will -- heck, that Notch never will.  When the big guys jerk you around, you've got not many other options.  When the little guys do it, boy do you have a lot of other options!

Pff, I have plenty of options when EA jerks me around.  I leaveeeeeee them. 

King

But not everybody thinks that way, or can resist the siren call of whatever shiny they're offering.

Based on the sales of Mass Effect 3, your very right.  Which is why I find the current petition(s) a little ridiculous, you all paid for the game and now your demanding that EA/Bioware change their ways?  Yeah, I'll bet the CEO spit his/her coffee out of his nose when he heard that obviously comedic line come out of his/her secretary.  All I'm saying is, expect more DLC and less content/caring.  Yeah. 

Fortunately, I can resist shiny things.  heh.

King

[BobTheJanitor]

I'm mostly resisting them, at least since Origin came out. It's not that I'm opposed to the concept, it's just that Steam does everything Origin does better, and I don't want to have multiple DD services running all the time. But taking their games off of Steam and spouting some corporate BS excuse about "connecting with their customers"... yeah that was the last straw for me.

You know if they'd just come out and said 'we want this on our service so we can compete with Steam and make more money,' I would have respected that. But I just can't stomach corporate buzzword doublespeak crap. The English language doesn't deserve to be twisted that way!

Although it's really going to upset me if the new Sim City does turn out to require Origin running in order to play.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

I'm mostly resisting them, at least since Origin came out. It's not that I'm opposed to the concept, it's just that Steam does everything Origin does better, and I don't want to have multiple DD services running all the time. But taking their games off of Steam and spouting some corporate BS excuse about "connecting with their customers"... yeah that was the last straw for me.

You know if they'd just come out and said 'we want this on our service so we can compete with Steam and make more money,' I would have respected that. But I just can't stomach corporate buzzword doublespeak crap. The English language doesn't deserve to be twisted that way!

Although it's really going to upset me if the new Sim City does turn out to require Origin running in order to play.

Hate to break the news, but Sim City requires Origin AND comes with DRM.  That was released a few weeks ago by EA. 

I don't touch Origin because it spys on your computer hardrive, EA's "reason" for leaving Steam was, as you said, doublespeak crap considering I just saw Shank 2 on Steam a few weeks back and its an EA published game.  Being forced to use Origin only makes me mad.  I chose to run Steam several years back, I had never even heard of Valve's games until I had gotten on Steam. 

King

[orzelek]

There is one thing with Origin (not saying I love what EA is doing there): they bother about regional game pricing. Steam never even tried to that and thats still quite large con for me.

EA had many people on the fact that ME3 was end of a story line. It was main reason for me to buy it - to simply find out how it ends.

[keith.lamothe]

There is one thing with Origin (not saying I love what EA is doing there): they bother about regional game pricing. Steam never even tried to that and thats still quite large con for me.

Steam does different prices by currency, and which currency it uses varies by your region.  Of course, there's only a few different currencies so it's not very granular, but (for example) the steam price for AIW in rubles is not equivalent to the steam price for AIW in USD, GBP, or Euros.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

You know, I know that Australians pay more than US players, who's to blame for that?  The devs?  The currency?  Steam?  I've been wondering for a while.  Although I'll bet someone told me why its like that and I've forgotten. 

King

[keith.lamothe]

You know, I know that Australians pay more than US players, who's to blame for that?  The devs?  The currency?  Steam?  I've been wondering for a while.  Although I'll bet someone told me why its like that and I've forgotten. 

King

Not us, somebody else has their hands in the cookie jar

I suggest sending a concerned (and probably anonymous, to be safe) letter to Saxton Hale to make sure he is aware of the situation affecting his fellow Australians.  A few barrel rolls and panels later and the hippies responsible will be resolved.

[orzelek]

There is one thing with Origin (not saying I love what EA is doing there): they bother about regional game pricing. Steam never even tried to that and thats still quite large con for me.

Steam does different prices by currency, and which currency it uses varies by your region.  Of course, there's only a few different currencies so it's not very granular, but (for example) the steam price for AIW in rubles is not equivalent to the steam price for AIW in USD, GBP, or Euros.

I bought my games from steam in euros only. You can't choose currency given in your country in any way.
And here in Poland we have usually separate pricing schema on games (lower prices in our own currency) and steam doesn't bother to account for that. Origin actually does from start present prices in our currency - then price of the game in digital shop is similar to what I can see in shop on shelf (often around 50% difference than in euro).