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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 03:05:21 AM »
Nope. Any Human military presence at all on or adjacent to the Raid Engine world. This includes missiles, as I unfortunately learned.

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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2012, 09:22:41 AM »
What exactly activates a raid engine. Usual ai alert phase of less then 1 starship and less then 50 fleet ships?
Looking at the raid engine code, basically:

- If game clock is > 60 seconds and not on cooldown
-- for each neighboring planet, then current planet:
--- if does not have a AI command station or has at least 1 human military unit (minor faction and zombie units never count, even if their player number points to a human)
---- send wave to that planet, start 200 second cooldown, break out of planet loop
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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2012, 03:31:32 PM »
Nasty.

Got a new game lined up.

Assets:
2 armored golems
1 artillary golems
3 ars
6 spire civilians

All before the first homeworld, which has no raid engine (it does have cpa's...maybe...but if it does that's ok! Maybe I can empty the whole galaxy and then drain the V's!)

New strategy involves using those civs. If I can bust 5 without taking their worlds I can then turtle up and ride out the waves as they diminsh to zero. Then I may try the impossible and take all the worlds in a 10/10 game. With a massive econ and an arty golem to puncture a guard post each "phase of battle" I can overcome the first world.

The second one does have a raid engine. That will involve the guardpost being punched out as I have my AIP at the floor (less then 300 I imagine) and me bum rushing the world to get the post with arty.


1. Does the artillery golem have the ability to ignore dampening? I heard it did, but I need to confirm.


Game will wait until the update. 20 AIP makes for not impossible games of the first wave, but bad enough to wait a day to start.
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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2012, 06:38:31 PM »
Nasty.
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Then I may try the impossible and take all the worlds in a 10/10 game.
Heh.  Remember the AIP floor, reductions or no.  But yea, given a willingness to rack up a fairly silly game clock, that might be possible.  The AI would be likely to retaliate in other games, however.

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1. Does the artillery golem have the ability to ignore dampening? I heard it did, but I need to confirm.
Both the human and AI variants (not the broken variant, obviously) do have the ImmuneToRadarDampening flag set to true, yes.

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Game will wait until the update. 20 AIP makes for not impossible games of the first wave, but bad enough to wait a day to start.
Understandable.   5.021 tests have gone very well, so I think it's ready for tomorrow (hopefully Chris will have time to do the release).  Hybrids have learned some new tricks.  Test subjects didn't do so well.
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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2012, 10:01:09 AM »
Did you think about a solution to shield generators "behind" the core worlds? I seem to remember somebody stumbled across this problem in another insane campaign....

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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2012, 10:11:35 AM »
Did you think about a solution to shield generators "behind" the core worlds? I seem to remember somebody stumbled across this problem in another insane campaign....

to be fair, I think a lot of people who play snake map for the first time stumble across that problem :D I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm one of them lol.
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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2012, 11:49:03 AM »
as for the shields:

been there done that. No shields on snake maps
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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2012, 01:23:34 PM »
Like many things in AI Wars, I'm guessing that's a mistake people only make once :) .

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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2012, 08:57:11 PM »
Did you think about a solution to shield generators "behind" the core worlds? I seem to remember somebody stumbled across this problem in another insane campaign....

Probably me, "brawl on the snake".  I prepped Spire Teleporter units to be able to move the majority of my fleet to any leftover A CSGs, but found I didn't have to because I got lucky.
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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2012, 10:36:58 PM »
round 4 is go. World 3 has a super fort.

edit: it is hidden under 2 shields and a zombie guardian. groan
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Re: A stroll through 10/10
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 07:45:25 PM »
abandoned after discovering super fort could not be defeated through lack of supply

resuming hunt for games with botnet within 4 worlds and an arty and non raid world.
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