0001917: AI CPA attacks still getting stuck on adjacent planets

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(0005611) keith.lamothe (administrator) Dec 8, 2010 9:44 am	If you have a save, that would make it easier to tell whether this is actually a bug or just Chris's "wait until you have overwhelming force" logic. Said logic has a more intense definition of "overwhelming force" on higher difficulties, btw.

(0005614) Wingflier (reporter) Dec 8, 2010 9:59 am	I understand the AI is making the best decision by not attacking (as they would get slaughtered), but at the same time it's still a wave. The fact that I'm playing CPA shouldn't turn "waves" into massive border aggression from MKIV planets an hour into the game. Lemme upload that save.

(0005615) keith.lamothe (administrator) Dec 8, 2010 10:04 am	Well, the thing is that it's not really a wave any more when you turn on CPW, it's just a bunch of AI ships spawned on an AI planet (as opposed to a bunch of AI ships spawned on a non-AI planet). The game has no way of remembering "this ship came from a cross-planet-wave" as opposed to any other AI ship that may have become free-to-attack, so this is what you get.

(0005617) keith.lamothe (administrator) Dec 8, 2010 10:06 am	If I'm reading this right, the big problem is that the ships are piling up on a MkIV world and hitting the border aggression cap which is in turn _freeing mkIV ships_ to come after you rather than the tech level that's appropriate to the "waves" at the time. That sounds more like it needs a fix to border aggression to free the lower-mark ships first, and/or probably to just not count "free" ships at all since they now pile up so much.

(0005620) Wingflier (reporter) Dec 8, 2010 10:18 am	Yeah that would definitely be a step in the right direction :P

(0005621) x4000 (administrator) Dec 8, 2010 10:26 am	Actually, border aggression should never be kicking in at all if there aren't too many ships in cold storage. Assuming that the wave ships aren't in cold storage, they shouldn't be having any effect on border aggression or barracks for that planet. But, in terms of the behavior of them waiting until they have "overwhelming force," that's just how ships act now. When they do a "wave" into a planet, they're just dropped there in free/threat mode, and that's how free/threat ships act. Cross-Planet Waves is definitely a lot harder now with the recent AI changes. But that stuff with triggering border aggression of mark IV stuff should not be happening, if it is.

(0005628) Wingflier (reporter) Dec 8, 2010 10:59 am	Well now that I know that's what's supposed to be happening, I'll keep a close eye on the MKIII/IV planets to make sure I don't start getting hit by high-level border aggression for the next few hours. Other than that, I can't blame the AI for making the best decision and not throwing their lives away just because it would make things easier for me :D

(0005629) x4000 (administrator) Dec 8, 2010 11:06 am	Cool. Just let us know! :)

(0005641) Varone (reporter) Dec 8, 2010 11:55 am	I play with Cross Planet Waves too and i think it's working as intended. Wingflier, just be careful not to move your forces away from friendly planets and cease to pay attention to those angry AI ships. They have a habit of coming for you when you least expect it!

(0006275) x4000 (administrator) Dec 15, 2010 7:16 pm	Cool -- sounds like it's doing good, so marking as closed.

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Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
Dec 8, 2010 9:18 am	Wingflier	New Issue
Dec 8, 2010 9:18 am	Wingflier	File Added: AI War 1.PNG
Dec 8, 2010 9:19 am	Wingflier	File Added: AI War 2.PNG
Dec 8, 2010 9:19 am	Wingflier	File Added: AI War 3.PNG
Dec 8, 2010 9:21 am	Wingflier	Description Updated	View Revisions
Dec 8, 2010 9:44 am	keith.lamothe	Note Added: 0005611
Dec 8, 2010 9:59 am	Wingflier	Note Added: 0005614
Dec 8, 2010 10:04 am	keith.lamothe	Note Added: 0005615
Dec 8, 2010 10:06 am	keith.lamothe	Note Added: 0005617
Dec 8, 2010 10:18 am	Wingflier	Note Added: 0005620
Dec 8, 2010 10:26 am	x4000	Note Added: 0005621
Dec 8, 2010 10:59 am	Wingflier	Note Added: 0005628
Dec 8, 2010 11:06 am	x4000	Note Added: 0005629
Dec 8, 2010 11:06 am	x4000	Assigned To	=> x4000
Dec 8, 2010 11:06 am	x4000	Status	new => feedback
Dec 8, 2010 11:55 am	Varone	Note Added: 0005641
Dec 15, 2010 7:16 pm	x4000	Note Added: 0006275
Dec 15, 2010 7:16 pm	x4000	Status	feedback => resolved
Dec 15, 2010 7:16 pm	x4000	Resolution	open => fixed

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